Bob Dylan – New York, NY (11/04/61)

Bob Dylan
Carnegie Chapter Hall
New York City, New York
4 November 1961

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  1. Pretty Peggy-O (trad.)
  2. In The Pines (Huddie “Leadbelly” Leadbetter)
  3. Gospel Plow (trad.)
  4. 1913 Massacre (Woody Guthrie)
  5. Backwater Blues (Bessie Smith)
  6. A Long Time A-Growin’ (trad.)
  7. Fixin’ To Die (Bukka White)
  8. San Francisco Bay Blues (Jesse Fuller)
  9. Car Song (Woody Guthrie)
  10. Talking Bear Mountain Picnic Massacre Blues
  11. Man On The Street
  12. Sally Gal
  13. This Land Is Your Land (Woody Guthrie)
  14. Talking Merchant Marine (Woody Guthrie)
  15. Black Cross (Lord Buckley)
  16. He Was A Friend Of Mine
  17. Pretty Polly (trad.)
  18. House Of The Risin’ Sun (trad.)
  19. The Cuckoo Is A Pretty Bird (trad.)
  20. Freight Train Blues (John Lair)
  21. Song To Woody
  22. Talkin’ New York

Bob Dylan (vocal & acoustic guitar).

1, 2, 10, 11, 13  Bob Dylan (harmonica).


Thank you. Kind of got lost coming up here tonight. Took a subway. Got off somewhere on 156th Street started walking back. I got hung up in a Cadillac store an …, So I’m not here on time. Almost run over by a bus, so I took another subway. On to 34th street an I walked up here. Come pretty prepared tonight I got a list on my guitar. This is a new list. I used to have one on my guitar about a month ago, that was no good. Figured I’d get a good list. So I went around an put the list on first. Then I went around to other guitar players an I sort of looked at their list, copied down songs on mine. Some of these I don’t know so good. Well. Let’s see here. Here’s a (need to leave the stage (off mike)) that’s fine. Here I go. This is story about a little girl running all over, finding out about life. She’s going out at night coming home keeping late hours. Finding out just what makes up life, 11 years old. (after Pretty Peggy-O)

First came here. I used to spend a lot of time with Woody Guthrie. February last February. This is one of Woodys songs. I’ll sing a couple more. This is one, one of a group of two. (before 1913 Massacre).

Thanks. Here’s a song I guess just about everybody knows. Leadbelly used to sing this. (before Backwater Blues).

Here’s a …, here’s a. I must admit before I came I learned plenty folk songs in New York. I learned about, … well since I been here now since …, February, last February. I’ve learned about oh, 4 or 5 new songs I never heard about before. An one I never heard about was this one. There’s this Irishman. Lian, … Liam Clancy. Sings this one. Err, This is err a straight copy. Straight imitation. I don’t imitate the voice much, I can’t get that accent quite good enough. This is an Irish one though. Very sad song. Maybe this the American version of the Irish version of Liam Clancys version. Heard Liam sing this in the Whitehorse Bar, Irish bar. (before A Long Time A-Growing).

Unauthorized releases

(The release is unauthorized and is not associated with or approved by Bob Dylan or his current recording label)

1-7, 10, 11, 14, 15, 20-22 released in the UK on CARNEGIE CHAPTER HALL 1961, Bob Dylan Archive BDACD102, 20 February 2012.

2, 4, 10, 11, 14, 21 released on Bob Dylan Folk Singer-Humdinger, Smith & Co SCCD 2488, 7 January 2013.

Official releases

Fragment of 10 appears on the DVD NO DIRECTION HOME, October 2005.

13 released on THE BOOTLEG SERIES VOL 7. NO DIRECTION HOME: THE SOUNDTRACK, Columbia Legacy CD 520358 2, 30 August 2005.


Tracks 8, 9, 12, 16-19 are not in general circulation.

Incomplete mono PA recording, 40 minutes.

Session info updated 21 August 2015.

John Coltrane – Newport, RI (07/01/61)

John Coltrane Quintet
Newport, RI

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I have two sources for this show, you can read the info here.

Total Time: 28:33 min.

  1. Introductions 01:27
  2. Impressions 06:21
  3. Naima 04:18
  4. My Favorite Things 16:27

John Coltrane: Tenor and Soprano Sax
McCoy Tyner: Piano
Art Davis: Bass
Reggie Workman: Bass
Elvin Jones: Drums

Source/Lineage: Reel to Reel Master /TEAC Reel to Reel Deck/Nakamichi CR2A/ Philips CR-765 / flac – dime

Goody’s additional lineage:
dBpoweramp (WAV) > Cool Edit Pro (Pitch Bender -50 cents) > Trader’s Little Helper (FLAC Level 8, ffp)

Pitch was approx. 50 cents sharp. Goody 1/16/11

This is great. Thank you for sharing!  For the sake of accuracy though, there was no 1961 Newport Jazz Festival. Seriously.  This Coltrane recording is from "Music At Newport," an entirely different one-off event that happened in Newport that summer.  Here's a basic synopsis of what happened (from the Newport Jazz Festival wiki). You can also read about it in depth in George Wein's highly recommended autobiography.  Stu

In 1960 boisterous spectators created a major disturbance, and the National Guard was called to the scene. Word that the disturbances had meant the end of the festival, following the Sunday afternoon blues presentation headlined by Muddy Waters, reached poet Langston Hughes, who was in a meeting on the festival grounds. Hughes wrote an impromptu lyric, “Goodbye Newport Blues,” that he brought to the Waters band onstage, announcing their likewise impromptu musical performance of the piece himself, before Waters pianist Otis Spann led the band and sang the Hughes poem.

Presentation of the proper Newport Jazz Festival was disallowed in 1961 due to the difficulty of the previous year’s festival. In its place, another festival billed as “Music at Newport” was produced by Sid Bernstein in cooperation with a group of Newport businessmen. That festival included a number of jazz musicians but was financially unsuccessful. Bernstein announced that he would not seek to return to Newport in 1962. The Newport Jazz Festival resumed at Freebody Park in 1962.

Bob Dylan – Early Dylan (1961-1962)

Bob Dylan
1961-1962 Early Dylan

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Original Info
Bob Dylan – Early Dylan 61/62 Compilation (

45 .shn’s, 2 .md5’s
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Posted in yEnc to by c.l in May 2002

This set donated by Phil Monnier is an outstanding early Dylan (61/62) compilation. This set includes tracks from
The Oscar Brand interview (10-29-61), Carnegie Chapter Hall (11-04-61), Bonnie Beacher’s Apartment (12-22-61),
and the Leeds Demo (Feb. 62). The 11-04-61 and 12-22-61 shows are serious improvements from what most Dylan traders
have access to. Phil speculates that only a handful of traders around the world have these shows in this quality.
It is an unbelievable set. Another dylantree essential!

From Phil…
“The main purpose of this cd compilation is to give Dylan newbies excellent sounding early soundboard material.
Both 12-22-61 and 11-04-61 are tremendous upgrades to anything that has been released on boot over the years.”

This set isn’t just for newbies! The 12/22 and 11/04 sets are an incredible improvement.

Remaster Additional Info.

This is a gorgeous remastering of the Dylantree Early Dylan set. As you may know, the dylantree version was flawed with “digital fuzz” in many places, particularly on the Beacher tapes sections. The fuzz is gone on the bprm. Other annoying extraneous noises have been removed, as well as overlong dead spaces between tracks. No EQ changes have been made to the original sound of the recordings. Levels have been normalized to match up the varying sources. The overall effect is to turn the Dylantree product into a two disc WOW! rather than a choppy collection of moldy old stuff. It’s never sounded better. Steve Wilkison has done a wonderful job with this set. I consider it well worth getting, even if you have the original dylantree set. Here is an additional comment from Steve: “I spent the better part of two days remastering the “Early Dylan” set because it literally contained well over 1,000 separate digital glitches.” Turly a labor of love
This set includes:


Disc One

WNYC Radio
Oscar Brand Interview (basically an advertisment for the 11-4-61 show)
New York, N.Y.

Low generation remastered

  1. Interview > Sally Girl
  2. Interview > The Girl I Left Behind

Carnegie Chapter Hall
New York, N.Y.

1st generation remastered

  1. Pretty Peggy-O
  2. Banter > In The Pines
  3. Gospel Plow
  4. Banter >1913 Massacre
  5. Backwater Blues
  6. Banter > A Long Time A Growin’
  7. Fixin’ To Die
  8. Brief snippet of chatter (cuts out)

Bonnie Beacher’s Apartment
Minneapolis, MN

1st generation reel remastered

  1. (cuts in) Candy Man
  2. Baby Please Don’t Go
  3. Hard Times in New York
  4. Stealin’
  5. Po’ Lazurus
  6. I Ain’t Got No Home
  7. It’s Hard To Be Blind
  8. Dink’s Song
  9. Man Of Constant Sorrow
  10. East Orange NJ

    Disc Two

CONTINUED from Disc One

Bonnie Beacher’s Apartment
Minneapolis, MN

1st generation reel remastered

  1. Naomi Wise
  2. Wade In The Water
  3. I Was Young When I Left Home
  4. In The Evening
  5. Baby Let Me Follow You Down
  6. Sally Girl
  7. Gospel Plow
  8. Long John
  9. Cocaine
  10. VD Blues
  11. VD Waltz
  12. VD City
  13. VD Gunner’s Blues
  14. See That My Grave Is Kept Clean
  15. Ramblin’ Around
  16. Black Cross

Leeds Music
New York, NY

  1. He Was A Friend Of Mine
  2. Man On The Street
  3. Hard Times In New York Town
  4. Poor Boy Blues
  5. Ballad For A Friend
  6. Ramblin’ Gamblin’ Willie
  7. Man On The Street
  8. Talking Bear Mountain
  9. Standing On The Highway

Additional Analysis Info.

Some notes comparing the sets that comprise these two discs with the previously circulating versions. Special thanks for Mick for taking the time to analyze & compare this stuff ’cause I could never have done this.

I’ve compared the tracks from this new compilation to existing circulating versions. In addition to listening tests, all tracks were loaded into Cool Edit Pro so I could have a look at them and to do a spectrum analysis.

The Leeds Demos are the only tracks that are not an improvement. They appear to be a direct copy from the “In The Pines” CD.

For starters, the frequency response of all three of the other recordings extends to 22 kHz.

The Oscar Brand tracks on the previous “I Was So Much Younger Then” compilation have a frequency response that drops off the chart at about 16 kHz. Although the aural difference isn’t dramatic, the new version
sounds more natural and open. It’s also a hoot to hear Dylan tell Oscar Brand with a straight face that he learned his songs from traveling with carnivals when he was between 13 and 19 years old.

The only complete version of Carnegie Chapter Hall that I had for this comparison was a 192kbps MP3 that I believe was taken from the “Acoustic Troubadour” boot. Frequency response dies on that one at 9.5 kHz. The
new one, supposedly from a first generation tape copy, is a significant improvement, again sounding much more natural. This is definitely the version to own. Interestingly, both versions experience distortion on the louder guitar parts, so I guess the original recording levels were just set a little too hot.

The other recording on this set is the December 22, 1961 tape recorded at Bonnie Beacher’s apartment. This is more commonly known as the Minnesota Hotel Tape. The best previously circulating version was on the Wanted Man release, “The Minnesota Tapes”. To the naked ear, both versions sound pretty close, although the volume of the newer version is lower. It wasn’t until I loaded them both into Cool Edit Pro that I saw the differences. Although the frequency response of both versions extends to 22 kHz, the new version has a slightly better response in the
high end. To be honest, it kind of looks like someone boosted the frequency above 14 kHz, but there is a more open sound to my ears. It’s not a huge difference, but noticeable if you are listening for it. For the purists, however, this new version is the one to get. In a wave editor, you can see that the Wanted Man version has been slightly
compressed. Specifically, hard limiting has been applied to smooth out the levels. That’s common mastering practice and on this type of recording would be highly recommended. The limiting was done judiciously and does not alter the sound. Still, for the purist wanting to get as close to the original as possible, this new one is it.

Any way you look at it, this new compilation is a “must have” for lovers of this material. The sound quality is on par with the “Gaslight Tapes 1962” release which upgraded the Oct. ’62 Gaslight tape. Additionally, if you also have “Echo’s Album” with its superior version of the 5/2/63 show from The Bear in Chicago, then the “In The Pines” CD is now irrelevant and outdated.

Mick McLaughlin (aka Unicorn)

Notes from happy jack 11-10-2010
updated info. text (i combined all important parts of info. files into one)
all original info files included (4 total)
checked the md5s for disk 1 & 2 (which are included and passed)
added art work

enjoy this great sound quality of music and history of early Bob Dylan

Thanks to the person and people involved

Do NOT Sell !!!!

happy jack

Bob Dylan – Rare Cassette Box Set, 1961-1962

Gaslight Tapes (Rare Cassette Box Set)

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SOURCE: Factory Produced Cassettes > Akai GX95 > Soundforge PRO 10 > FLAC Level 6 Align on Sector Boundaries

  • Gaslight Cafe, Late 1962
    ** Gaslight Cafe, September 6th 1961
    *** Finjan Club, July 2nd 1962

Scans of original box plus Artwork for Three Disc Jewel Case

Transfer and Artwork, JTT April 2010

Side A:
A Hard Rain’s A-Gonna Fall *
Black Cross *
No More Auction Block *
Rocks and Gravel *

Side B:
Don’t Think Twice, It’s All Right *
Barbara Allen *
Moonshine Blues *

Side A:
Motherless Children *
Handsome Molly *
John Brown *
Ballad of Hollis Brown *
Kind Hearted Woman Blues *

Side B:
See That My Grave Is Kept Clean *
Ain’t No More Cane On The Brazos *
Cocaine *
Cuckoo Is A Pretty Bird *
West Texas *

Side A:
Man On The Street **
He Was A Friend Of Mine **
Talkin’ Bear Mountain Picnic Massacre Blues **
Song To Woody **

Side B:
Car Car **
Pretty Polly **
Two Trains Running ***
Ramblin’ On My Mind ***

Bob Dylan – Dylan’s Roots, 1961

Bob Dylan
Dylan’s Roots
Source: East Orange & Chapter Hall Tracks [1961]
Released: 1991

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Quality: Good to Average
Bob’s Boots Review (
A wonderful ‘must-have’ CD for anyone interested in the beginnings of a legend. It contains the complete circulating tapes of two historic 1961 recordings. There is an 8 page booklet that is included in the set that lists the tracks, and gives historical information of the two recordings in English, French, Italian, and German. The english page can be seen here ( The CD itself is silk-screened with the image on the front of the booklet. Highly recommended.

East Orange Recordings (February-March 1961):

  1. San Francisco Bay Blues (Jesse Fuller)
  2. Jesus Met The Woman At The Well (Trad)
  3. Gypsy Davey (Trad-Guthrie arr)
  4. Pastures Of Plenty (Woody Guthrie)
  5. Trail Of The Buffalo (Trad-Guthrie arr)
  6. Jesse James (Trad)/Car Car (Woody Guthrie)/Southern Cannonball (Jimmie Rodgers)/Bring Me Back My Blue-Eyed Boy (Trad)
  7. Remember Me (Scott Wiseman)

Chapter Hall Concert (November 4, 1961):

  1. Pretty Peggy-O (Trad arr Dylan)
  2. In The Pines (Leadbelly)
  3. Gospel Plow (Trad)
  4. 1913 Massacre (Woody Guthrie)
  5. Backwater Blues (Bessie Smith)
  6. Young But Daily Growin’ (Trad)
  7. Fixin’ To Die (White)

Bob Dylan – The Ghost of Woody Guthrie, 1961 Recordings

Bob Dylan
The Ghost Of Woody Guthrie
1961 Recordings

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01. Handsome Molly – July 29, 1961 (Riverside Church Tape)
02. Baby Please Don’t Go – December 22, 1961 (Minnesota Hotel Tape)
03. Pastures Of Plenty – Early 1961 (Gleason Tape)
04. Ain’t Got No Home – December 22, 1961 (Minnesota Hotel Tape)
05. Railroad Boy – May 1961 (Minnesota Party Tape)
06. 1913 Massacre – November 4, 1961 (Live at Carnegie Chapter Hall)
07. Poor Lazarus – December 22, 1961 (Minnesota Hotel Tape)
08. This Train Is Bound For Glory – May 1961 (Minnesota Party Tape)
09. Gypsy Davy – Early 1961 (Gleason Tape)
10. How’d You Do – May 1961 (Minnesota Party Tape)
11. Young But Daily Growing – November 4, 1961 (Live at Carnegie Chapter Hall)
12. In The Evening – December 22, 1961 (Minnesota Hotel Tape)
13. It’s Hard To Be Blind – December 22, 1961 (Minnesota Hotel Tape)
14. Omie Wise – July 29, 1961 (Riverside Church Tape)
15. Railroad Bill – May 1961 (Minnesota Party Tape)
16. Talking Merchant Marine – November 4, 1961 (Live at Carnegie Chapter Hall)
17. Stealin’ – December 22, 1961 (Minnesota Hotel Tape)
18. Cocaine Blues – December 22, 1961 (Minnesota Hotel Tape)
19. Don’t Push Me Down – May 1961 (Minnesota Party Tape)
20. Car, Car – September 6, 1961 (Live at The Gaslight Cafe)
21. In The Pines – November 4, 1961 (Live at Carnegie Chapter Hall)
22. Remember Me – Early 1961 (Gleason Tape)

Bonus Tracks

01. Ramblin’ Round – May 1961 (Minnesota Party Tape)
02. San Francisco Bay Blues – May 1961 (Minnesota Party Tape)
03. See The My Grave Is Kept Clean – December 22, 1961 (Minnesota Hotel Tape)
04. VD City – December 22, 1961 (Minnesota Hotel Tape)
05. Backwater Blues – November 4, 1961 (Live at Carnegie Chapter Hall)
06. Death Don’t Have No Mercy – May 1961 (Minnesota Party Tape)


These recordings collectively form the best of what Bob Dylan recorded before the release of his first album. None are original songs; as the name suggests, Woody Guthrie and the music of the 1930s and 1940s hang like a specter over much of the material here.

You can really get a sense of Dylan beginning his journey towards musical stardom. While his earliest recordings here sound reasonably tentative, by the later recordings he has developed a knack for showmanship and inhabiting the songs. He even cracks a lewd joke when introducing “Talking Merchant Marine.”

As is unsurprising, the sound quality is questionable at times. While the Minnesota Hotel Tape and the Carnegie Chapter Hall recordings sound utterly remarkable, the Minnesota Party Tape and the Riverside Church Tape leave a bit to be desired. The Gleason Tape falls squarely in the middle – it has an ambience that makes up for its loud tape noise. None of the recording quality detracts significantly from the songs, and listenability was a concern, as ever, in compiling this set.

The bonus content includes a couple of songs that were on an earlier iteration of this record, and a handful of others that were interesting (especially Backwater Blues!) but that couldn’t quite fit on the proper CD. “See That My Grave Is Kept Clean” represents the only representation of music present on Dylan’s debut LP, though the melody of “1913 Massacre” would be reappropriated for “Song To Woody.”

I hope you enjoy the collection, which represents a glimpse into the formative period in the performance art of Bob Dylan.

Grabbed this compilation from A Thousand Highways and converted the Apple Lossless files to FLAC. – Mat

John Coltrane – Paris, France (11/18/61)

John Coltrane
Paris, France

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I got this in a CDR trade many years ago so I have no source info for it at all.

Early Show:

I Want To Talk About You
Blue Train
My Favorite Things

John Coltrane (ss, ts); Eric Dolphy (as, fl); McCoy Tyner (p); Reggie Workman (b); Elvin Jones (d); Norman Granz (ann)

Jerry Garcia, Marshall Leicester & Robert Hunter – San Carlos, CA (07/xx/61)

Jerry Garcia, Marshall Leicester, Robert Hunter
Carlos Bookstall
San Carlos, CA

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Source: Aud > ? > CDR
Encoding: EAC(secure) > Cool Edit > CDWAV > mkwact > SHN(seekable)
This is flac encoded & tagged version of shnid: 17381
Thanks to Patrick Hayes for the disks!

Another installment of MisSHN in the Rain branch of TMNSP 4/26/03

Disk 1
01. Banjo Instrumental %
02. Poor Ellen Smith %
03. Wildwood Flower %
04. Brown’s Ferry Blues % – Officially Released on Before the Dead
05. Jesse James % – Officially Released on Before the Dead
06. No One To Stand By Me %
07. All The Good Times Are Past And Gone %
08. Darling Corey %
09. //Bolshevik In Hell (1) %

– Bolshevik in Hell has different hiss level and little above 4kHz while other tunes go to ~ 8kHz. This is
consistent with the comment in Deadlists that this may be from a different date

Deadlists COMMENTS
Jerry Garcia, acoustic guitar; Marshall Leicester, banjo; Robert Hunter, bass?. This performance took place at the Boar’s Head Coffeehouse, located in the upstairs loft of the Carlos Bookstall.
(1) Robert Hunter acapella. This set and the 01/??/62 Burlingame set also circulate together as “Garcia, Hunter and Albin ’62.” It can be argued that the ‘room ambience’
and recording quality of both tapes are identical; they -sound- like they were recorded at the same time.

RECORDINGS 25 A?. Audience recording, made on reel-to-reel by Rodney Albin, possibly from mics placed on stage.
Bolshevik In Hell may not be from the same date.

No One to Stand by Me is Late Last Night When Willie Came Home
Bolshevik in Hell is The Ballad of Harry Pollitt

Bob Dylan – New York, NY (09/xx/61)

Bob Dylan
Gaslight Café
New York City, New York
September 1961

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1. Man On The Street
2. He Was A Friend Of Mine
3. Talking Bear Mountain Picnic Massacre Blues
4. Song To Woody
5. Pretty Polly (trad.)
6. Car, Car (Woody Guthrie)

Bob Dylan (vocal, harmonica, acoustic guitar).
6 Dave van Ronk (guitar, backup vocal).

Note. The circulating tape is known as The First Gaslight Tape.