Shows of the Day February 11, 2023

I’ve already run into a slight snag with Google Drive. There doesn’t seem to be an easy way for me to share multiple links. Last night I uploaded five Pink Floyd shows. In Google Drive I can highlight all five and tell it to give me a link. But the link it gives me is actually five separate links (one for each show) separated by a comma. If I try to plug that into my browser (in private mode so my login isn’t spoiling it) I only get access to the first show.

Amazon and File Factory both gave me a link that would automatically allow you to see all the shows I had highlighted. I’m not sure how to do that with Google. I tried creating a new folder, one I could upload shows into each day, then move them once the link was shared. But it only shares the contents of that folder. So once I moved the files out the link was useless.

If anyone has any ideas on how to share multiple links in a way that would work for me please do let me know. But for now I’ll just do this:

Pink Floyd – 1967-1970 – Effervesing Elephant

Pink Floyd – 1967-1970 – Melk Web

Pink Floyd – 1967-1970 – Unforgotten Hero

Pink Floyd – 1967-1971 – Complete BBC

Pink Floyd – 1967-1971 – My Head Kissed the Ground

Please let me know how this works for you. Copying multiple links like this every day will no doubt lead to some errors, and it is a little annoying on my side, but I think I can make it work.

Bob Dylan – Waltzing Matilda – Australia 2001

Bob Dylan
“Waltzing Matilda” – Australia 2001
Compilation series from 2001 by LJK.

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Notes are his.

This series features all the rarer performances from each leg of the tour. All the ‘one-off’ and less commonly performed songs are included. Songs performed (mostly) every night are not included. The songs have been re-assembled into approximate concert order. The songs have been chosen to be the best version from either quality or performance where several performances or recordings exist. All recordings are from DAT, none from Bootleg. All shows from each leg are represented. The songs have been ‘re-balanced’ for loudness so that the songs flow smoothly. The transitions between songs have been blended for smoothness as well.

LJK 2006

Disk 1

I am the Man, Thomas – Newcastle 24 March 2001
Roving Gambler – Sydney 25 March 2001
The Times They Are A-Changin – Adelaide 20 March 2001
To Ramona – Melbourne 21 March 2001
Song to Woody – Tamworth 23 March 2001
Chimes of Freedom – Newcastle 24 March 2001
Mr Tambourine Man – Sydney 25 March 2001
My Back Pages – Brisbane 30 March 2001
If You See Her, Say Hello – Adelaide 20 March 2001
‘Till I Fell in Love with You – Melbourne 21 March 2001
Country Pie – Tamworth 23 March 2001
Just Like Tom Thumbs Blues – Newcastle 24 March 2001
Absolutely Sweet Marie – Sydney 25 March 2001
It’s All Over Now, Baby Blue – Cairns 28 March 2001
Down in the Flood – Ballina 31 March 2001

Disk 2

I Don’t Believe You – Brisbane 30 March 2001
Just Like a Woman – Perth 18 March 2001
This Wheels on Fire – Adelaide 20 March 2001
Blind Billie McTell – Melbourne 21 March 2001
Lay Lady Lay – Tamworth 23 March 2001
Tell Me That it isn’t True – Newcastle 24 March 2001
I Want You – Ballina 31 March 2001
Seeing the Real You at Last – Adelaide 20 March 2001
Tombstone Blues – Melbourne 21 March 2001
I’ll be your Baby, Tonight – Tamworth 23 March 2001
Ballad of a Thin Man – Newcastle 24 March 2001
Maggies Farm – Sydney 25 March 2001
Searching for a Soldiers Grave – Cairns 28 March 2001
Ring them Bells – Adelaide 20 March 2001

Disk 3

Stuck Inside of Mobile – Brisbane 30 March 2001
Mama,You Been on my Mind – Sydney 25 March 2001
Don’t Think Twice, It’s Alright – Newcastle 24 March 2001
Girl from the North Country – Tamworth 23 March 2001
The Gates of Eden – Ballina 31 March 2001
Masters of War – Adelaide 20 March 2001
A Hard Rain’s A-Gonna Fall – Melbourne 21 March 2001
Can’t Wait – Cairns 28 March 2001
Visions of Johanna – Brisbane 30 March 2001
Tomorrow is a Long Time – Ballina 31 March 2001
It Ain’t Me Babe – Ballina 31 March 2001

Disk 4

Watching the River Flow – Adelaide 20 March 2001
Things have Changed – Melbourne 21 March 2001
Make You Feel My Love – Newcastle 24 March 2001
Standing in the Doorway – Sydney 25 March 2001
Tryin’ to get to Heaven – Cairns 28 March 2001
Dignity – Brisbane 30 March 2001
Drifter’s Escape – Adelaide 20 March 2001
The Wicked Messenger – Sydney 25 March 2001
Cold Irons Bound – Cairns 28 March 2001
Highlands – Adelaide 20 March 2001,
I Shall be Released – Adelaide 20 March 2001
Knockin’ on Heaven’s Door – Melbourne 21 March 2001
Forever Young – Newcastle 24 March 2001
Not Fade Away – Ballina 31 March 2001

Bob Dylan – Elvis Can Wait, US and Canada Summer Tour 1997

Bob Dylan
“Elvis Can Wait”
Various Dates and Venues
1997 US and Canada Summer Tour
Initially circulated via Dylantree

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“Elvis Can Wait” (Volume 1)

Disc 1

Loon Mountain, Lincoln, New Hampshire (1997-08-03)

  1. Absolutely Sweet Marie
  2. I Want You
  3. This Wheel’s On Fire
  4. You Ain’t Goin’ Nowhere

Du Maurier Stadium, Montreal, Quebec, Canada (1997-08-05)

  1. Blind Willie McTell
  2. Lay Lady Lay

Molson Amphitheatre, Toronto, Ontario, Canada (1997-08-07)

  1. If You See Her, Say Hello
  2. I’ll Be Your Baby Tonight
  3. One Too Many Mornings

Pine Knob Music Theatre, Clarkston, Michigan (1997-08-10)

  1. I Shall Be Released
  2. Tough Mama

Montage Mountain Performing Arts Center, Scranton, Pennsylvania (1997-08-12)

  1. Absolutely Sweet Marie
  2. Joey

Disc 2

Montage Mountain Performing Arts Center, Scranton, Pennsylvania (1997-08-12)

  1. All Along The Watchtower
  2. Born In Time
  3. Silvio
  4. Oh Babe It Ain’t No Lie
  5. Mr. Tambourine Man
  6. Tangled Up In Blue
  7. Tough Mama
  8. She Belongs To Me
  9. Everything Is Broken
  10. One Of Us Must Know (Sooner Or Later)
  11. Girl From The North Country

“Elvis Can Wait” (Volume 2)

Disc 1

Montage Mountain Performing Arts Center, Scranton, Pennsylvania (1997-08-12)

  1. Rainy Day Women #12 & 35

Star Pavilion, Hershey Park Stadium, Hershey, Pennsylvania (1997-08-13)

  1. To Ramona
  2. Rainy Day Women #12 & 35

Oakdale Theater, Wallingford, Connecticut (1997-08-18)

  1. Pretty Peggy-O

Mann Music Center, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania (1997-08-20)

  1. Tears Of Rage
  2. Leopard-Skin Pill-Box Hat
  3. Shelter From The Storm

GTE Amphitheater, Virginia Beach, Virginia (1997-08-22)

  1. Friend Of The Devil

Wolf Trap Farm Park for the Performing Arts, Vienna, Virginia (1997-08-23)

  1. Man In The Long Black Coat
  2. Under The Red Sky
  3. Stone Walls And Steel Bars
  4. Stuck Inside Of Mobile With The Memphis Blues Again

Disc 2

Wolf Trap Farm Park for the Performing Arts, Vienna, Virginia (1997-08-23)

  1. Don’t Think Twice, It’s All Right
  2. Alabama Getaway

Wolf Trap Farm Park for the Performing Arts, Vienna, Virginia (1997-08-24)

  1. Tonight I’ll Be Staying Here With You
  2. Roving Gambler
  3. Cocaine Blues *** REMOVED ***
  4. Watching The River Flow
  5. Blind Willie McTell
  6. Highway 61 Revisited
  7. Like A Rolling Stone
  8. Forever Young

*** Officially released on “Tell Tale Signs: The Bootleg Series Vol. 8 Rare and Unreleased 1989-2006” Columbia CKB 735797, 6 October 2008

Bob Dylan – Yankee Doodle Dandy – 4th of July Performances (1991-2017)

Bob Dylan
YANKEE DOODLE DANDY (Bob on the 4th of July, 1991-2017)
A compilation by WiseJake237 and Temper-Tempest-Tambourine

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  1. Shelter From The Storm (July 4, 1991, Lenox)
  2. Seeing The Real You At Last (July 4, 1992, Genoa)
  3. Tears Of Rage (July 4, 1994, Besancon)
  4. Crash on the Levee (July 4, 1995, Berlin)
  5. Can’t Wait (July 4, 1998, Rostock)
  6. Tryin’ to Get to Heaven (July 4, 1999, Milwaukee)
  7. Absolutely Sweet Marie (July 4, 2005, Fort Worth)
  8. Down Along the Cove (July 4, 2006, Clermont-Ferrand)
  9. Chimes Of Freedom (July 4, 2007, Montreal)
  10. Moonlight (July 4, 2008, Lorca)
  11. Yankee Doodle Dandy (July 4, 2009, South Bend)
  12. This Wheel’s on Fire (July 4, 2009, South Bend)
  13. Thunder on the Mountain (July 4, 2012, Bonn)
  14. Pay In Blood (July 4, 2015, Barcelona)

Ballad Of A Thin Man (July 4, 2017, Oshawa)
(NOTE: This track was sourced from an incomplete YouTube recording in MP3 quality.
We have included it as a bonus track for this reason. Purely for archival purposes.)

The Who – You Are Who?: Demos and Outtakes from Who Are You

The Who
You Are Who?
Demos & Outtakes for the “Who Are You? – Album, 1976-78

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Origin: CD – (Disc label and ID: WHO 78)Liberated

  1. Who Are You (Studio-outtake – Daltry vocals)
  2. Who Are You (Original Pete Townshend demo – Townshend vocals)
  3. Love is Coming Down (P.T. Demo)
  4. New Song (P.T. demo-original mix)
  5. Sister Disco (P.T. demo-original mix)
  6. Never Ask Me (P.T. demo-original mix)
  7. I Like It That Way (original P.T. acoustic version)
  8. Love is Wine (unreleased P.T. demo)
  9. Keep on Working (original P.T. demo)
  10. Guitar and Pen (original P.T. demo)
  11. Music Must Change (P.T. demo – original mix)
  12. Empty Glass (original P.T. demo-version)
  13. No Road Romance (P.T. demo – original mix)
  14. Barbara Ann (Who-Studio outtake)
  15. Peppermint Lump (P.T. demo with schoolgirl Angie singing-released as a 7″ on STIFF Records in 1979, credited to Angie)

Bob Dylan – You To Me Were True, 1989

Bob Dylan
YOU TO ME WERE TRUE, Relationship Songs of 1989
Pink Panther Records

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Sources: best available mp3, most converted directly from FLAC to mp3@320kbps.

Sound: generally excellent, sometimes very good, never poor.

Rating stars: lots of ’em.

Bob performed a staggering number of relationship songs in 1989 – not only his own but also a lot of covers.

He has always gone way beyond the “She loves you yeah, yeah, yeah – I wanna hold your hand” format.

Bob is looking for a lot more than that!

He is also more interested as always in the “black” side of love songs – the “train wreck” at the end of a relationship.

This topic was obviously preoccupying his mind in 1989.

So here we have an incredible song-cycle with:
more sex than all the Italian operas combined,
more intrigue & innuendo than the “naughty” Shakespeare plays they avoid teaching kids in college; &
more drama than most Hollywood & Bollywood soap operas.

So welcome to Bob’s love opera in 67 parts!!

Some great (& scary) stuff here.


1.Lonely Is A Man Without Love / LíAir De La Louisiane (Arrangement Jesse Winchester) (Berkeley 9/3)


2.I Want You (Ottawa 7/30)
3.I’m In The Mood For Love (Jimmy McHugh / Dorothy Fields) (Toledo 8/8)
4.Queen Jane Approximately (New York 10/12)
5.Everyday (Charles Hardin aka Buddy Holly) (New York 5/0)
6.Absolutely Sweet Marie (Poughkeepsie 10/20)
7.Baby, Let Me Follow You Down (Reverend Gary Davis) (Berkeley 9/3)
8.Shot Of Love (Portland 7/15)
9.Heart Of Mine (St Louis 8/9)


10.Everybody’s Movin'(G.Troutman aka Glen Glenn) (Poughkeepsie 10/20)
11.Eileen Aroon (Traditional) (Stockholm 5/28)
12.Not Fade Away (Charles Hardin aka Buddy Holly) (New York 5/0)
13.Barbara Allen (Traditional) (Dublin 6/4)
14.Nothing But You (Steve Earle) (Portland 7/15)
15.Wagoner’s Lad (Traditional) (Boston 10/23)
16.You Don’t Know Me (Eddy Arnold / Cindy Walker) (Rome 6/20)


17.Pledging My Time (Wantagh 7/23)
18.When Did You Leave Heaven (Walter Bullock / Richard Whiting) (Holmdel 7/21)
19.Shelter From The Storm (Milan 6/19)


20.To Be Alone With You (Atlanta 11/10)
21.Crazy Love (Michael Judson O’Hara / Denise Rich / George Lyter) (Athens 6/27)
22.I’ll Be Your Baby Tonight (Ithaca 10/29)
23.Lay, Lady, Lay (Ithaca 10/29)
24.It Takes A Lot To Laugh, It Takes A Train To Cry (Ottawa 7/30)
25.Simple Twist Of Fate (Maple 7/29)
26.Just Like A Woman (Maple 7/29)
27.Leopard-Skin Pill-Box Hat (Atlantic City 7/20)


28.Confidential (To Me) (Dolinda Morgan) (Helsinki 5/30)
29.Visions Of Johanna (Ann Arbor 11/1)
30.In The Pines (Traditional, arrangement Huddie Ledbetter aka Lead Belly) (Milwaukee 7/3)


31.The Man In Me (Park City 9/1)
32.Adelita (Traditional) (Los Angeles 9/24)
33.She Belongs To Me (Rochester 7/6)
34.Love Minus Zero / No Limit (Holmdel 7/21)
35.Tangled Up In Blue (Milan 6/19)


36.Making Believe (Jimmy Work) (New York 5/0)
37.It Ain’t Me, Babe (Atlantic City 7/20)
38.Lakes Of Pontchartrain (Traditional) (Frejus 6/13)


39.Seeing The Real You At Last (Poughkeepsie 10/20)
40.Positively 4th Street (Park City 9/1)
41.Like A Rolling Stone (The Hague 6/10)


42.Congratulations (Traveling Wilburys) (Birmingham 6/7)
43.Don’t Think Twice, It’s All Right (San Sebastian 6/17)
44.Lonesome Town (Rick Nelson / Baker Knight) (Birmingham 6/7)
45.Tomorrow Is A Long Time (Rochester Hills 7/6)
46.More And More (Webb Pierce / Merle Kilgore) (Houston 8/26)
47.To Ramona (Wantagh 7/23)
48.(I’ll Be) A Legend In My Time (Don Gibson) (Atlantic City 7/20)
49.One Too Many Mornings (Dublin 6/4)
50.It’s All Over Now, Baby Blue (Ottawa 7/30)
51.I Don’t Believe You (She Acts Like We Never Have Met) (The Hague 6/10)
52.Boots Of Spanish Leather (Atlantic City 7/20)
53.Driftin’ Too Far From Shore (Milwaukee 7/3)
54.Most Likely You Go Your Way (And I’ll Go Mine) (The Hague 6/10)
55.You’re A Big Girl Now (Milan 6/19)


56.Most Of The Time (New York 10/12)
57.When First Unto This Country (Traditional, arrangement Jerry Garcia / David Grisman) (Norfolk 11/7)
58.Girl Of The North Country (Ottawa 7/30)
59.Give My Love To Rose (Johnny Cash) (Christinehofs Slott 5/27)
60.Pretty Peggy-O (Traditional) (Ottawa 7/30)
61.I’m Not Supposed To Care (Gordon Lightfoot) (New York 5/0)
62.Mama, You Been On My Mind (Toledo 8/8)
63.Hey La La (Hey La La) (Ray Price / Leonard McRight) (Maple 7/29)
64.Rank Strangers To Me (A.Brumley) (Louisville 8/18)
65.Man Of Constant Sorrow (Traditional) (Atlanta 8/13)
66.(I Heard That) Lonesome Whistle (Hank Williams / Jimmie Davis) (New York 5/0)
67.I’ll Remember You (Poughkeepsie 10/20)

Bob Dylan – His Face Looked Just Like Mine in 1989

Bob Dylan
Songs about men.
Pink Panther Records

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mp3@320kbps version

1.Man Of Peace (New York 10/12)
2.Masters Of War (The Hague 6/10)
3.Pancho And Lefty (Cava de’Tirreni 6/21)
4.John Brown (Birmingham 6/7)
5.One Irish Rover (Ottawa 7/30)
6.Ballad Of Hollis Brown (Helsinki 5/30)
7.Trail Of The Buffalo (Atlanta 8/16)
8.Lenny Bruce (Atlantic City 7/20)
9.And It Stoned Me (Rochester 7/6)
10.Song To Woody (Madrid 6/15)
11.The Lonesome Death Of Hattie Carroll (Boston 10/24)
12.Man In The Long Black Coat (New York 10/13)
13.Maggie’s Farm (Toledo 8/8)
14.Ballad Of A Thin Man (Chicago 10/31)

15.Two Soldiers (Patras 6/26) Bonus track (cut at end) – won’t fit on a single CD

Jerry Garcia & John Kahn – If You Could See My Heart

Jerry Garcia & John Kahn acoustic duo 1982
If You Could See My Heart
(plus bonus material from 1984-85)

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  • SBD sources only for sonic consistency and suspension of disbelief
  • Excluded 4.10.82 for consistency as it is Garcia solo
  • Excluded 6.5.82 Oregon State Prison (falsely accused of being 5.5.82) because it’s the one everyone’s heard
  • Bonus material is from the few 1984-85 SBDs, including some material not played in ’82 and some worthy repeats
  • There are several good tapes from 1986 and the performances are often good, but that’s a project for another day


  • The source recordings vary in quality from great to decent.
  • Garcia & Kahn recordings were made with some audience presence mixed in

everyone who had a hand in getting these recordings to us

“Early Show”

  1. It Takes a Lot To Laugh, It Takes a Train To Cry – 82.06.04 – late show – Neighbors of Woodcraft, Portland OR
  2. I’ve Been All Around This World – 82.06.04 – early show – Neighbors of Woodcraft, Portland OR
  3. Stagger Lee – 82.04.21 – late show – Beacon Theater, NYC
  4. Valerie – 82.09.07 – The Stone, San Francisco CA
  5. Gomorrah – 82.09.07 – The Stone, San Francisco CA
  6. To Lay Me Down – 82.06.26 – late show – Warner Theater, Washington DC
  7. Bird Song – 82.06.27 – late – Tower Theatre, Upper Darby, PA
  8. Run for the Roses – 82.06.27 – late – Tower Theatre, Upper Darby, PA
  9. Reuben and Cherise – 82.04.21 – late show – Beacon Theater, NYC

    “Late Show”
  1. Deep Elem Blues – 82.06.27 – late show – Tower Theatre, Upper Darby, PA
  2. Catfish John – 82.06.06 – South Eugene HS, Eugene OR
  3. Jack-A-Roe – 82.06.04 – early show – Neighbors of Woodcraft, Portland OR
  4. Oh, Babe, It Ain’t No Lie – 82.06.26 – late show – Warner Theater, Washington DC
  5. Friend of the Devil – 82.06.26 – early show – Warner Theater, Washington DC
  6. Dire Wolf – 82.06.27 – late show – Tower Theatre, Upper Darby, PA
  7. Going, Going, Gone – 82.04.21 – late show – Beacon Theater, NYC
  8. Ripple – 82.06.27 – late – Tower Theatre, Upper Darby, PA
  9. Goodnight Irene (w/Dr. John) – 82.04.21 – late show – Beacon Theater, NYC

    Bonus set
  1. It Takes a Lot To Laugh, It Takes a Train To Cry – 84.06.03 – Kabuki Theater, SF CA
  2. Little Sadie – 84.06.03 – Kabuki Theater, SF CA
  3. Bird Song – 84.06.03 – Kabuki Theater, SF CA
  4. Peggy-O – 84.11.26 – Bushnell Auditorium, Hartford CT
  5. She Belongs To Me – 85.10.16 – The Catalyst, Santa Cruz, CA
  6. When I Paint My Masterpiece – 85.10.16 – The Catalyst, Santa Cruz, CA
  7. Reuben and Cherise – 85.10.16 – The Catalyst, Santa Cruz, CA


  • Fades in and out
  • Patched a few intros when the first note or 3 was clipped
  • Tightened up a dropout in Catfish John
  • Patched dropout in Going Going Gone with the 4.10.82 solo version

By Mr. Completely 2022

Tom Waits – Transmission Impossible: 1975-1977

Tom Waits
Transmission Impossible (2015)
Label: Eat To The Beat

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This 3 CD set includes radio broadcasts transmitted during this initial period of Tom Waits career, and features complete live performances recorded in; 1975 at the studios of KRQS FM, Minneapolis, featuring just Tom alone at his piano; in December 1976 at Media Sound Studios – another in studio session during which, between numbers, Tom is interviewed by the station presenter; and in 1977, back in the big apple at the famous, My Father s Place venue, out on Long Island.

CD1 – Minneapolis 1975
1-1 Emotional Weather Report
1-2 Eggs And Sausage (Intro)
1-3 Eggs And Sausage
1-4 Better Off Without A Wife
1-5 Semi Suite
1-6 Spare Parts
1-7 The Ghosts Of Saturday / The Heart Of Saturday Night
1-8 New Coat Of Paint
1-9 Warm Beer And Cold Women
1-10 Virginia Avenue
1-11 San Diego Serenade
1-12 Putnam County
1-13 Ol’ 55
1-14 Mr. Siegal (from The Don Lane Show Australia 1981)
1-15 Tango Til They’re Sore (from Late Night with David Letterman NYC 1986)
1-16 Time (from Late Night with David Letterman NYC 1986)

CD2 – New York 1976
2-1 Emotional Weather Report
2-2 A Sight For Sore Eyes
2-3 Step Right Up
2-4 Eggs And Sausage / Invitation To The Bues
2-5 Jitterbug Boy
2-6 Diamonds On My Windshield
2-7 San Diego Serenade
2-8 Tom Traubert’s Blues
2-9 New Coat Of Paint
2-10 The Piano Has Been Drinking
2-11 I Can’t Wait To Get Off Work

CD3 – New York 1977
3-1 Standin’ On The Corner
3-2 I Never Talk To Strangers
3-3 Pasties And G-Strings
3-4 Invitation To The Blues
3-5 Jitterbug Boy
3-6 Step Right Up
3-7 I Wish I Was In New Orleans / Small Change
3-8 The Piano Has Been Drinking
3-9 Emotionak Weather Report
3-10 Muriel
3-11 Jack & Neal / California, Here I Come
3-12 Tom Traubert’s Blues

Van Morrison – Into the Music Live

Van Morrison
Into The Music Live
A Compilation

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  1. Bright Side Of The Road (May 25, 2001; Sala Kongresowa, Warszawa, Poland)
  2. Full Force Gale (September 25, 1986; Philipshalle, Duesseldorf, West Germany)
  3. Troubadours (November 7, 2008; Hollywood Bowl, Los Angeles)
  4. Rolling Hills (September 1, 1979; Royal Highland Showground, Ingliston, Scotland)
  5. You Make Me Feel So Free (October 21, 1979; Berkeley Community Theatre, Berkeley, California)
  6. Angeliou (April 7, 1997; Ruth Eckerd Hall, Clearwater, Florida)
  7. And The Healing Has Begun (with Richard Gere) (July 2, 1994; Corn Exchange, Cambridge, England)
  8. It’s All In The Game (September 20, 1999; Guildhall, Portsmouth, England)
  9. You Know What They’re Writing About (September 20, 1999; Guildhall, Portsmouth, England)

Otherwise known as “The greatest recorded music in the history of Western civilization.”

Steppin’ Out Queen (performed once; no known recording)

Many thanks and much appreciation for all the tapers, masterers and seeders for making this sort of thing possible.

Special thanks to prb for being a font of knowledge and clarity.